These Immortal Souls
-Chronology-

1983-1986
UK London

After The Birthday Party split in August 1983, Rowland joins Frank Tovey for the recording session of his "Gag" album (as Fad Gadget), during November 1983. In January 1984 he attempts to form These Immortal Souls with Barry Adamson [ex-Magazine/The Birthday Party], Chris Walsh [The Moodists] and Jeffrey Wegener [ex- Young Charlatans/ The Laughing Clowns]. They rehearse and demo 3 songs, but it turns out to be a disaster. In January 1985 Rowland joins a reformed Crime and the City Solution, a band he stays member of until December 1986.

Early 1986
UK London-Hornsey,Konk studios(@ 84-86 Tottenham Lane). Start of the recording sessions for the "Get Lost (Don't Lie) album. Engineered by Alan Moulder.

Photo: Google street view, 2009.

Note: "But it was a really difficult record to make, 'cause we had to do it in lost of bits and pieces of studio time, so it was just basically a lot more work than it should have been. We started it in early '86 or something, and finished it in early '87. But we only had about twenty days in the studio. When you get one studio day at a time, you spend half the day setting it up and getting sounds and stuff, so it's a real waste of time." Rowland interviewed for Beat #37 magazine, January 1989.

August/September 1986
UK London-Shoreditch,The Strongroom Studio (@ 120-124 Curtain Road). Continuation of the recording sessions for the "Get Lost (Don't Lie) album. Engineered by Mark Ellis (Flood).

Photo: Google street view, 2014.

Note 1: Recorded at the same time/place as Crime and the City Solution's "Room of Light" album and "Your Funeral...My Trial" album by Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds.

Note 2: The Strongroom was established at a former furniture warehouse by producer Richard Boote in 1984. One of the first albums recorded at the Strongroom were Blancmange's "Believe You Me", Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds "Your Funeral..My Trial" (partial), John Cale’s "Artificial Intelligence" followed by Nico’s "Camera Obscura". Crime and the City Solution would also record their "Room Of Lights" album at Strongroom during August/September 1986. The Bad Seeds would return to Strongroom for their "Tender Prey" album (in November '87-January '88).

April 1987
UK London-Shoreditch,The Garden Studios (@ 1 Holywell Lane). Continuation of the recording sessions for the "Get Lost (Don't Lie) album. Engineered by Mark Ellis (Flood).

Photo: Google street view, 2014.

Note 1: Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds recorded part of their "From Her To Eternity" album at this studio in 1983.

Note 2: The Garden Studios were designed by Andy Munro, and owned by John Foxx [Ultravox!] through the 80's, and sold to Matt Johnson [The The] in the early 90's. The studio was closed down in 2012.

June 1987
UK London-Soho,Trident 2 Studios. Final recording sessions for the "Get Lost (Don't Lie) album. Engineered and mixed by Tony Cohen.

Note: Guests Barry Adamson (drums, backing vocals) and Harriet Freeman (viola). Recorded at the same time/place as Anita Lane's "Dirty Sings" EP. "The first week of June 1987 saw Tony [residing in Berlin] return briefly to London recording Anita Lane's EP 'Dirty Sings' at Trident studio with Mick Harvey." from "Life in a Padded Cell: A Biography of Tony Cohen", a book by Dale Blair.

12-Jul-87
UK London-Harlesden,Mean Fiddler
[support for Sonic Youth, with UT]

Setlist: Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)/ Hide/ Hey! Little Child [Alex Chilton]/ These Immortal Souls/ "Blood And Sand" She Said/ One In Shadow, One In Sun/ Marry Me (Lie! Lie!) -reprise.

Ad: Xerox of ad from UK mag.

Note: First concert as These Immortal Souls. After the main set, someone stole Rowland's Blue guitar effects box. Sonic Youth would later introduce the band to SST records (a record label formed in 1978 in Long Beach, California by Greg Ginn), who would release their first album in the USA. This concert was at the tail-end of Sonic Youth's month long European tour.

1987
UK London,London Weekend Television

Photo 1: Screenshot from video clip.

Photo 2: Photo of video set by Fiona A MacPherson.

Note: Shootings for the promo video (directed by Peter 'Pinko' Fowler) for their first single, "Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)", filmed in the attic of the London Weekend Television building. Peter Fowler and Brenda Kelly created/produced/directed SNUB TV video magazine from London, aired in the US (Night Flight 1987) and in the UK (BBC/Super Channel 1989-1991).

07-Sep-87
UK Release of the "Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)" 12" single (Mute records).

01-Oct-87
UK London-Kentish Town,Town & Country Club
[support for Primal Scream, with Biff Bang Pow and The Motorcycle Boy]

Setlist: Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)/ "Blood And Sand" She Said/ Hide/ Hey! Little Child [Alex Chilton]/ These Immortal Souls/ One In Shadow, One In Sun.

Ad: Xerox of ad from UK mag.

Note: Second concert as These Immortal Souls.

25-Oct-87
UK London-Kentish Town,Town & Country Club
[support for the Gun Club, with Pop Will Eat Itself, The Bambi Slam]

Setlist: Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)/ Hide/ Hey! Little Child [Alex Chilton]/ "Blood And Sand" She Said/ These Immortal Souls/ One In Shadow, One In Sun.

Ad: Scan from the NME 17-Oct-87.

Note: Third concert as These Immortal Souls.

26-Oct-87
UK Release of the "Get Lost (Don't Lie)" LP/CD album (Mute records).

06-Nov-87
UK London-Hackney,Club Mankind
London Post Industrial Inter Galactic Noise Structure festival
[with Mietek Dymny, Kiwisex,..]

Setlist: "Blood And Sand" She Said/ Hey! Little Child [Alex Chilton]/ These Immortal Souls/ Hide/ Get Lost-Don't Lie! (Sob Story)/Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)/ I Ate The Knife/ and more..

Article: Scan of article from "Scene and Heard" rock magazine #13, May/June 1988.

Note 1: Fourth concert as These Immortal Souls. Club Mankind was a squatted train station building, run by Nigerian skinheads, and located on the corner of Mare Street and Amhurst Road. Later it was renamed Hackney Central and since 2013 "Oslo". PIIGNS three-day festival line-up day one (Thursday 05-Nov-87): Gerechtigkeits Liga, Bourbonese Qualk, Greater Than One, Grief; line-up day two (Friday 06-Nov-87): Mietek Dymny, Kiwisex, These Immortal Souls; line-up day three (Saturday 07-Nov-87): Nikki Sudden & the Jacobites, Genesis P. Orridge, Z'EV, Trimeh, Zing Zang.

Note 2: "And people can be disappointed so quickly; you can hardly believe it! We played a White Noise festival in London and all they wanted to hear was Rowland's feedback!" Genevieve quoted in a These Immortal Souls interview published in German SPEX magazine March 1988.

January 1988
UK London,studio. Recording for new single and EP, which are never finalised.

04-Feb-88
DE Berlin-Schöneberg,The Loft (im Metropol)

Setlist: Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)/ These Immortal Souls/ Hey! Little Child [Alex Chilton]/ "Blood And Sand" She Said/ I Ate The Knife/ Hide/ Swing For The Crime [The Saints]/ Get Lost-Don't Lie! (Sob Story)/ One In Shadow, One In Sun/ Marry Me (Lie! Lie!).

Note: Start of a month long European tour.

06-Feb-88
DE Enger,Forum

Setlist: Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)/ These Immortal Souls/ Hey! Little Child [Alex Chilton]/ "Blood And Sand" She Said/ I Ate The Knife/ Hide/ Swing For The Crime [The Saints]/ Get Lost-Don't Lie! (Sob Story)/ One In Shadow, One In Sun.

Ad: Scan from Spex mag, February 1988.

Video: Video, by UGL Media on YouTube.

07-Feb-88
DE Köln,Rose Club

Setlist: Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)/ These Immortal Souls/ Hey! Little Child [Alex Chilton]/ "Blood And Sand" She Said/ Swing For The Crime [The Saints]/ I Ate The Knife/ Hide/ One In Shadow, One In Sun/ Get Lost-Don't Lie! (Sob Story)/ High Wire (theme from "Danger Man") [Ted Astley].

Photo: Credit Wolfgang Burat, published in Spex mag, March 1988.

Ad: Scan of advert from EB-Metronom 13-88.

Note: "Danger Man" was a 1960s British secret agent TV series. "Dangerman Theme" was covered on Peter Lillie's "Samurai Star" 7" single (1980), which features Rowland S. Howard, Mick Harvey and Phill Calvert. It was recorded by Tony Cohen in the same month as when The Boys Next Door were recording side two of their "Door, Door" album.

08-Feb-88
DE Frankfurt,Cooky's

Setlist: Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)/ These Immortal Souls/ Hey! Little Child [Alex Chilton]/ "Blood And Sand" She Said/ I Ate The Knife/ Swing For The Crime [The Saints]/ One In Shadow, One In Sun/ Hide/ High Wire (theme from "Danger Man") [Ted Astley].

Ad: Scan from Spex mag, February 1988.

09-Feb-88
DE Nürnburg,Zabolinde

10-Feb-88
AT Wien,U4

Setlist: Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)/ These Immortal Souls/ Hey! Little Child [Alex Chilton]/ "Blood And Sand" She Said/ I Ate The Knife/ Swing For The Crime [The Saints]/ One In Shadow, One In Sun/ High Wire (theme from "Danger Man") [Ted Astley].

Note: Broadcast by Austrian ORF FM-radio, except for "One In Shadow, One In Sun". Short concert, RSH had laryngitis. He had been to hospital the day before. Concerts starts at midnight.

11-Feb-88
AT Linz,Posthof

Setlist: Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)/ These Immortal Souls/ Hey! Little Child [Alex Chilton]/ "Blood And Sand" She Said/ Hide/ I Ate The Knife/ Swing For The Crime [The Saints]/ Get Lost-Don't Lie! (Sob Story)/ One In Shadow, One In Sun.

12-Feb-88
DE München,Alabamahalle

Ad: Scan of ad from "59 to 1" fanzine 19-1988.

13-Feb-88
CH Lausanne,Dolce Vita

Review: Scan of review from Gazette de Lausanne 16-Feb-88.

14-Feb-88
CH Martigny,Caves du Manoirs

Article: Scan of article from Le Nouvelliste 12-Feb-88.

15-Feb-88
DE Stuttgart,Rohre

17-Feb-88
DE Saarbrücken,GHZ

18-Feb-88
DE Bochum,Zeche

Listing: Scan of listing from Spex mag, February 1988.

19-Feb-88
DE Hamburg,Grosse Freiheit 36
[with One Thousand Violins]

Setlist: Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)/ Hide/ "Blood And Sand" She Said/ These Immortal Souls/ Get Lost-Don't Lie! (Sob Story)/ Some Velvet Morning [Lee Hazlewood]/ Hey! Little Child [Alex Chilton]/ I Ate The Knife/ Swing For The Crime [The Saints]/ One In Shadow, One In Sun.

20-Feb-88
DE Kiel,Madhouse

21-Feb-88
DE Hannover,Bad

Setlist: Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)/ Hide/ "Blood And Sand" She Said/ These Immortal Souls/ Hey! Little Child [Alex Chilton]/ Some Velvet Morning [Lee Hazlewood]/ I Ate The Knife/ Swing For The Crime [The Saints]/ Get Lost-Don't Lie! (Sob Story)/ One In Shadow, One In Sun/ Down On The Street [The Stooges]/ High Wire (theme from "Danger Man") [Ted Astley].

Ad: Scan of signed ad.

Video: Video, by UGL Media on YouTube.

24-Feb-88
UK London-Camden,Dingwalls
[with Kamakazi 89]

Ad: Scan of ad from NME.

Note: Last date on European tour.

1988
US Release of the "Get Lost (Don't Lie)" LP album (SST records).

05-Mar-88
US USA Network cable TV,Flight Night/SNUB TV

Photo: Screenshot from "Autoluminiscent" DVD.

Listing: Scan of listing from LA Weekly 04-Mar-88.

Note: Interviewed in London on the eve of their North American tour. Peter Fowler and Brenda Kelly created/produced/directed SNUB TV video magazine from London, aired in the US (Night Flight 1987) and in the UK (BBC/Super Channel 1989-1991).

06-Mar-88
US CT,Hartford,Night Shift Cafe
[with the Flying Nuns, Closet Full of Fear]

Setlist: "Blood And Sand" She Said/ Hide/ These Immortal Souls/ Hey! Little Child [Alex Chilton]/ Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)/ I Ate The Knife/ Some Velvet Morning [Lee Hazlewood]/ Get Lost-Don't Lie! (Sob Story)/ Swing For The Crime [The Saints]/ One In Shadow, One In Sun/ Down On The Street [The Stooges].

Article: Scan of article from Bridgeport Telegram 03-Mar-88.

Ad: Photo of advert.

Photo: Screen capture from private video.

Video: Private video by Dennis Bouffard.

Note: Sunday night show. Start of a four-weeks, low-key, North American tour, their first and only. The Night Shift Cafe was a tiny club, which was tucked away in the middle of a shopping mall.

07-Mar-88
US VA,Richmond,Rockitz Music Club

Listing: Scan of listing from Richmond Times-Dispatch 04-Mar-88.

08-Mar-88
US NC,Charlotte,Pterodactyl Club
[with Phantom Tenants]

Setlist: "Blood And Sand" She Said/ Hide/ These Immortal Souls/ Hey! Little Child [Alex Chilton]/ Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)/ I Ate The Knife/ Some Velvet Morning [Lee Hazlewood]/ Get Lost-Don't Lie! (Sob Story)/ One In Shadow, One In Sun/ Swing For The Crime [The Saints]/ Down On The Street [The Stooges].

Card: Scan of generic card.

Listing: Scan of listing from The Charlotte Observer 02-Mar-88.

xx-Mar-88
US GA,Atlanta,The Rio

11-Mar-88
US TX,Austin,Liberty Lunch
[with Roger Miller of Mission of Burma]

Ad: Scan of ad from Austin American-Statesman 11-Mar-88.

12-Mar-88
US TX,Houston,Axiom

Listing: Scan of listing from The Houston Chronicle 10-Mar-88.

Note: Axiom existed from 1987 to 1992.

13-Mar-88
US TX,Dallas-Deep Ellum,Club Clearview
[with Nice Strong Arm]

Flyer: Scan of flyer.

Note: Gig without Genevieve, who was ill. Audience of 15, and one dog too. The Clearview was opened in 1985 by Jeffrey Yarbrough and located in downtown’s Deep Ellum abandoned warehouse district.

xx-Mar-88
US NM,Albuquerque,-

Note: Possible date/not confirmed.

1x-Mar-88
US AZ,Phoenix,Crash

Photo: Photo 2 and Photo 3 credit Jack Burke.

Note: Gig without Genevieve, who was ill.

xx-Mar-88
US CA,San Diego,-

Note: Possible date/not confirmed.

19-Mar-88
US CA,Los Angeles,Park Plaza Hotel-The Scream nightclub
[with Screams For Tina and Tribe Of The White Light]

Setlist: "Blood And Sand" She Said(*)/ Hide/ These Immortal Souls(*)/ Hey! Little Child [Alex Chilton](*)/ Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)/ I Ate The Knife/ Some Velvet Morning [Lee Hazlewood](*)/ Swing For The Crime [The Saints]/ Get Lost-Don't Lie! (Sob Story)(*)/ One In Shadow, One In Sun/ Down On The Street [The Stooges].

Ad: Scan of advert from LA Weekly 11-Mar-88.

Flyer: Scan of flyer.

Article: Scan of article from the Los Angeles Times 13-Mar-88.

Review 1: Scan of review from the Los Angeles Times 21-Mar-88.

Review 2: Scan of review from the LA Weekly 25-Mar-88.

Note: Tracks (*) released on the "Extra" album (Mute, 2024). Recorded by Vitus Mataré [The Last, who also recorded The Gun Club in 1981] "I hauled a Studer A-80 [Tape Reel Machine] and truckload of gear to a Hollywood location to record Rowland Howard and the remnants of The Birthday Party live for SST [records]. The recordings came out great but Mr. Howard did not care for them. Greg Ginn [Black Flag, SST records] has the master reels." (email to FTA, 2018)

xx-Mar-88
US CA,San Jose,-

Note: Possible date/not confirmed.

21-Mar-88
US CA,San Francisco,I-Beam
[with Caterwaul]

Setlist: "Blood And Sand" She Said/ Hide/ These Immortal Souls/ Hey! Little Child [Alex Chilton]/ Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)/ Some Velvet Morning [Lee Hazlewood]/ I Ate The Knife/ Swing For The Crime [The Saints]/ One In Shadow, One In Sun/ Down On The Street [The Stooges].

Ad: Scan of ad from The San Francisco Examiner 20-Mar-88.

Flyer: Scan of flyer.

xx-Mar-88
US OR,Portland,-

Note: Possible date/not confirmed.

24-Mar-88
US WA,Seattle,Ballard Firehouse

Listing: Scan of listing from The News Tribune 18-Mar-88.

xx-Mar-88
CA BC,Vancouver,-

xx-Mar-88
US MN,Minneapolis,-

xx-Mar-88
US MN,Detroit,-

Note: Possible date/not confirmed.

28-Mar-88
US MI,Kansas City,Grand Emporum
[with Moving Van Goghs]

Listing: Scan of listing from The Kansas City Times 05-Mar-88.

29-Mar-88
US IL,Chicago,Dreamerz

30-Mar-88
US OH,Columbus,Oz
[with Clan Of Xymox]

Ad: Scan of ad from Tim Anstaett's Offense Newsletter.

Note: Gig without Genevieve, who was ill.

01-Apr-88
CA ON,Toronto,Waverley Hotel-Silver Dollar

Setlist: "Blood And Sand" She Said/ Hide/ These Immortal Souls/ Hey! Little Child [Alex Chilton]/ Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)/ I Ate The Knife/ Some Velvet Morning [Lee Hazlewood]/ Get Lost-Don't Lie! (Sob Story)/ Swing For The Crime [The Saints]/ One In Shadow, One In Sun/ Down On The Street [The Stooges].

Photo: Credit unknown.

Listing: Scan of listing from The Toronto Star 31-Mar-88.

Note: Gig without Genevieve, who was ill.

02-Apr-88
CA QB,Montréal,Les Foufounes Electriques

Listing: Scan of listing from Le Devoir 02-Apr-88.

03-Apr-88
US Boston-Jamaica Plain,Green Street Station
[with VIA, Jeri Cain Rossi and D. Scott]
(Sunday matinee show)

Listing: Scan of listing from The Boston Globe 31-Mar-88.

04-Apr-88
US NY,New York City,Siberia (@ 804 Washington Street)

Note: Final date on North American tour.

15-Apr-88
DK København,Vandvaerket
[support for The Young Gods]

Setlist: "Blood And Sand" She Said/ Hide/ These Immortal Souls/ Hey! Little Child [Alex Chilton]/ Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)/ I Ate The Knife/ Get Lost-Don't Lie! (Sob Story)/ Swing For The Crime [The Saints]/ One In Shadow, One In Sun/ Down On The Street [The Stooges].

Photo: Backstage. Fiona A MacPherson.

26-Apr-88
UK London-Camden,The Palace

Ad: Scan of ad from UK mag.

Review: Original review from Melody Maker 07-May-88. Photo of another review from a UK mag.

09-May-88
BE Brussel,Ancienne Belgique-Ballroom

Setlist: "Blood And Sand" She Said/ Hide/ These Immortal Souls/ Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)/ Hey! Little Child [Alex Chilton]/ I Ate The Knife/ Swing For The Crime [The Saints]/ Some Velvet Morning [Lee Hazlewood]/ One In Shadow, One In Sun/ Down On The Street [The Stooges].

Ticket: Original ticket.

Photo: Photo credit Stefan De Batselier.

Note: Show only started at 2AM. Attendance 46 persons.

10-May-88
FR Paris,Le Grand Rex
[support Tav Falco's Panther Burns]

1x-May-88
FR -,-
[support Tav Falco's Panther Burns]

12-May-88
FR Rennes,L'UBU
[support Tav Falco's Panther Burns]

Setlist: Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)/ Hide/ "Blood And Sand" She Said/ Hide/ These Immortal Souls/ Hey! Little Child [Alex Chilton]/ I Ate The Knife/ Some Velvet Morning [Lee Hazlewood]/ Swing For The Crime [The Saints]/ One In Shadow, One In Sun.

13-May-88
CH Lausanne,Dolce Vita
[support Tav Falco's Panther Burns]

Photo: Credit Catherine Ceresole, taken from "Beauty Lies in the Eye", photobook (Edition Patrick Frey 2013).

01-Jun-88
UK London-Harlesden,Mean Fiddler
[support Tav Falco's Panther Burns]

Ad: Scan of ad from UK mag. More scans of ads from UK mags.

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Note: Show without Genevieve.

xx-Jul-88
UK London-Queens Park,1 Kingswood Avenue

Photo 1: Credit Innes Reekie, taken from his "Sometimes Pleasure Heads Must Burn", photo booklet (Stereogram 2018).

Photo 2: Google street view circa June 2022.

Note: Harry (and girlfriend Amanda), Rowland and Genevieve's residence (ground floor flat), opposite Queens Park. Former residence of The Triffids.

01-Sep-88
DE Hamburg-Bergedorf,Wutzrock festival
[with Siberian Guns and Tokyo Schwanstein]

Poster: Photo of poster.

02-Sep-88
DE Coesfeld,Fabrik

03-Sep-88
DE Vierlinden,-

xx-Sep-88
SE -,-

Ad: Scan of advert from SPEX September 1988.

08-Sep-88
DK København,Barbue

Setlist: I Ate The Knife/ "Blood And Sand" She Said/ Strangers In The Night [Frank Sinatra]/ Hide/ These Immortal Souls/ Hey! Little Child [Alex Chilton]/ Bad/ Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)/ All The Money's Gone/ Swing For The Crime [The Saints]/ One In Shadow, One In Sun/ Down On The Street [The Stooges].

09-Sep-88
DE Bremen,Romer

10-Sep-88
DE Enger,Forum
[with Submentals]

Ad: Scan of advert from SPEX September 1988.

12-Sep-88
DE Berlin-Schöneberg,The Loft (im Metropol)

13-Sep-88
DE Dortmund,Live Station

Setlist: I Ate The Knife/ "Blood And Sand" She Said/ Hide/ These Immortal Souls/ Hey! Little Child [Alex Chilton]/ Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)/ Bad/ Get Lost-Don't Lie! (Sob Story)/ All The Money's Gone/ Swing For The Crime [The Saints]/ One In Shadow, One In Sun/ Down On The Street [The Stooges].

14-Sep-88
DE Bremen,Schlachthof

Setlist: A.o. Hide/ These Immortal Souls/ Hey! Little Child [Alex Chilton]/ Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)/ Bad/ Get Lost-Don't Lie! (Sob Story)/ All The Money's Gone/ Swing For The Crime [The Saints]/ One In Shadow, One In Sun.

Photo: Screen captures from private video.

15-Sep-88
DE Stuttgart,Rohre

16-Sep-88
DE Geislingen-Steige,Rätschenmuhle

Ad: Scan of advert from SPEX September 1988.

17-Sep-88
AT Ebensee,Holzstock-Fest am Traumsee
Open Air festival
[with Crime & City Solution, The Last Bandits]

Setlist: I Ate The Knife/ "Blood And Sand" She Said/ Hide/ These Immortal Souls/ Hey! Little Child [Alex Chilton]/ Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)/ Bad/ All The Money's Gone/ Swing For The Crime [The Saints]/ One In Shadow, One In Sun/ Still Burning/ Some Velvet Morning [Lee Hazlewood]/ Get Lost-Don't Lie! (Sob Story).

Ad: Scan of advert from SPEX September 1988.

18-Sep-88
AT Linz,Posthof

19-Sep-88
AT Innsbruck,-

21-Sep-88
DE Heidelberg,Schwimmbad Musik-Club

Ad: Scan of advert from SPEX September 1988.

22-Sep-88
DE München,Theaterfabrik

Ticket: Scan of ticket.

22-Sep-88
DE München-Grünwald,Tele 5 TV-Offbeat program

Photo: Screen captures from TV broadcast.

Note: Rowland S.Howard interviewed by Christian Eckert. Broadcast 25-Sep-88.

23-Sep-88
DE Weiden,JZ

24-Sep-88
DE Marburg,Kulturladen KFZ

Setlist: I Ate The Knife/ Hide/ Hey! Little Child [Alex Chilton]/ These Immortal Souls/ Bad/ All The Money's Gone/ Some Velvet Morning [Lee Hazlewood]/ Get Lost-Don't Lie! (Sob Story)/ Swing For The Crime [The Saints]/ One In Shadow, One In Sun/ Down On The Street [The Stooges].

Photo: Screen captures from private video.

25-Sep-88
DE Frankfurt,Batschkapp

Ad: Scan of advert from SPEX September 1988.

26-Sep-88
DE Nürnburg,Zabolinde

28-Sep-88
DE Köln,Rose Club

Setlist: I Ate The Knife/ "Blood And Sand" She Said/ Hide/ All The Money's Gone/ Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)/ These Immortal Souls/ Hey! Little Child [Alex Chilton]/ Bad/ Some Velvet Morning [Lee Hazlewood]/ Get Lost-Don't Lie! (Sob Story)/ Swing For The Crime [The Saints]/ One In Shadow, One In Sun/ Down On The Street [The Stooges].

29-Sep-88
NL Eindhoven,Effenaar
[support for Sonic Youth, with Bongwater]

Setlist: These Immortal Souls/ Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)/ ?/ ?/ Swing For The Crime [The Saints]/ One In Shadow, One In Sun/ Down On The Street [The Stooges].

Ad: Scan of ad.

Note: Rowland and Epic join Sonic Youth singing "I Wanna Be Your Dog" for the encore.

30-Sep-88
NL Sneek,Bolwerk

Photo: Photo credit Bauke Koster.

Review: Scan of review from Leeuwarder courant 03-Oct-88.

Note: Attendance 65 persons.

01-Oct-88
NL Leiden,Leids Vrijetijds Centrum-LVC

07-Oct-88
UK London-Fulham,Greyhound
[with The Sundays, Tree Bound Army]

Setlist: I Ate The Knife/ "Blood And Sand" She Said/ Hide/ These Immortal Souls/ Hey Little Child [Alex Chilton]/ improvisation/ Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)/ Bad/ All The Money's Gone/ Get Lost-Don't Lie! (Sob Story)/ Swing For The Crime [The Saints]/ One In Shadow, One In Sun.

Photo: Credit Innes Reekie, taken from his "Sometimes Pleasure Heads Must Burn", photo booklet (Stereogram 2018).

Review: Original review from Melody Maker 15-Oct-88.

Late 1988
UK London,studio. Recording sessions for an EP. Four tracks are recorded: "Up On The Roof", "Hyperspace" (early version) and two more. Produced by Tony Cohen. Epic deliberately fucked it up because he didn't like the songs, so they ended up with basically unuseable tracks. This sowed the seeds of dissent between Rowland and Epic, although he would still join for the "I'm Never Gonna Die Again" album, but not the subsequent tour. "Up On The Roof" eventually ended up on the "King Of Kalifornia" single (October 1992).

"...not long after the first album we went into the studio to do another album, and it was a complete disaster. And I found out halfway through recording the record that Epic didn't like any of the songs, but rather than telling anybody he thought if he played really badly we'd never release them. So we ended up going to the studio and spending a lot of money and not having anything releasable. Mute [Records] lost a lot of faith in us, and it took a long time till they paid for us to go back into the studio, it really sort of killed the momentum that we had. It was just very strange." Rowland S.Howard interviewed by Jack Sargeant for BB Gun Magazine #6, 2003.

"Halfway through a recording it became obvious that Epic, our drummer, didn't like any of the songs, and was playing as badly as he possible could. Mute had spent GBP500 on this recording and from there it ended up taking three to four years to get their confidence back in that band to release another album. Consequently, it ended up being seven years [sic, 5 in fact] in between the 2 albums that we released". Rowland S. Howard in "Blunt, A biased history of Australian rock" book (Prowling Tiger press 2001).

20-Jan-89
AU Melbourne-Richmond,Old Greek Theatre
[support for Sonic Youth]

Setlist 1: Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)/ Hide/ "Blood And Sand" She Said/ These Immortal Souls/ Hey! Little Child [Alex Chilton]/ I Ate The Knife/ Some Velvet Morning [Lee Hazlewood]/ Bad/ Swing For The Crime [The Saints]/ All The Money's Gone/ One In Shadow, One In Sun.

Setlist 2: I Wanna Be Your Dog [The Stooges] (Rowland and Harry joining Sonic Youth for their final encore).

Photo: Credit Wayne O'Farrel . Another photo (backstage) , taken by Peter Milne.

Listing: Scan of listing from The Age 20-Jan-89.

Note: Chris Hughes [Slub] replaces Epic Soundtracks on drums. Chris would later in February 1990 join Hugo Race's (Berlin version of) The True Spirit as well as Bruno Adams' (Berlin version of) Once Upon A Time (in Autumn 1991).

25-Jan-89
AU Sydney-Paddington,RSL Club
[support for Died Pretty, with Hummingbirds]

Ad: Scan of advert from The Sydney Morning Herald 20-Jan-89.

Note: Chris Hughes [Slub] replaces Epic Soundtracks on drums.

09-Feb-89
AU Melbourne-South Yarra,Chasers
[with The Prostitutes]

Flyer: Xerox of flyer.

Review: Scan of review from Beat March 1989.

Note: Chris Hughes [Slub] replaces Epic Soundtracks on drums.

xx-Feb-89
AU Melbourne

Photo: Screen capture from "Autoluminiscent" DVD.

Video: Video, by UGL Media on YouTube.

Note: Rowland S. Howard interviewed by Paraskevi Apostolou and Mick Geyer for SKA TV Production. Mick Geyer passed away in April 2004, at the age of 51.

xx-Feb-89
AU Melbourne-St.Kilda,Prince Of Wales Hotel
[with Hugo Race]

Setlist: Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)/ Hide/ "Blood And Sand" She Said/ These Immortal Souls/ Hey! Little Child [Alex Chilton]/ Bad/ Some Velvet Morning [Lee Hazlewood]/ All The Money's Gone/ Swing For The Crime [The Saints]/ I Ate The Knife/ One In Shadow, One In Sun/ Down On The Street [The Stooges].

Photo: Screen capture from video.

Video: Video, by UGL Media on YouTube.

Note: Broadcast by 3PBS FM radio on 02-Mar-89 and on 16-Dec-89 by SKA TV. Chris Hughes [Slub] replaces Epic Soundtracks on drums.

10-Mar-89
AU Sydney-Kings Cross,Kardomah Café

Ad: Scan of advert from The Sydney Morning Herald 09-Mar-89.

Note: Chris Hughes [Slub] replaces Epic Soundtracks on drums.

11-Mar-89
AU Sydney,Landsdowne Hotel
[with Box The Jesuit]

Ad 1: Scan of ad, courtesy of Gil Morgan.

Ad 2: Scan of advert.

Note: Chris Hughes [Slub] replaces Epic Soundtracks on drums.

12-Mar-89
AU Sydney-Peterham,Petersham Inn-Max's
[with Rat Cat]

Ad: Scan of advert from The Sydney Morning Herald 10-Mar-89.

Note: Chris Hughes [Slub] replaces Epic Soundtracks on drums.

April 1989/March 1990
AU Melbourne. A year without any activity. Chris Hughes, together with Bruno Adams and Chris Russel move to Berlin (DE) in October 1989 to reform a Berlin version of their Once Upon A Time band. Rowland, Harry and Genevieve return to London in March 1990.

26-Mar-90
UK London-Islington,Powerhaus
[support for Loop]

Flyer: Xerox of flyer.

Note: Epic Soundtracks back on drums.

1990
UK London,Mute studios. Recording sessions for the "Luney Tune" [Alice Cooper] track for Sub Pop single release. Engineered and mixed by Victor Van Vugt.

05-Sep-90
UK Nottingham,Rock City
[support for Sonic Youth]

Setlist: Hyperspace/ Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)/ All The Money's Gone/ Hey! Little Child [Alex Chilton]/ One In Shadow, One In Sun/ My One-Eyed Daughter/ Insomnicide/ Shamed/ Crowned.

Ticket: Scan of ticket.

Note: Start of a short, 4-date, UK tour in support of Sonic Youth.

08-Sep-90
UK Cardiff,University
[support for Sonic Youth]

09-Sep-90
UK Birmingham,Hummingbird
[support for Sonic Youth]

Ad: Scan of advert from UK mag.

10-Sep-90
UK London-Brixton,The Academy
[support for Sonic Youth, with Babes In Toyland]

Setlist: Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)/ and 3 more.

Review: Original review from Melody Maker 27-Oct-90.

Ticket: Scan of ticket.

Mar/Dec-91
US/EU These Immortal Souls is put on hold when Rowland with brother Harry join Lydia Lunch's Shotgun Wedding project (1991) in Memphis, USA.

20-Jan/21-Feb-92
UK Leamington Spa, Woodbine St Recording Studio. Recording sessions for the "I'm Never Gonna Die Again" album and "King Of Kalifornia" single. Engineered by John A. Rivers. Last recordings with Epic Soundtracks on drums. Chris Hughes [True Spirit] was touring with the True Spirit at the time.

1992
UK London

Photo: Screenshots from video clip.

Note: Promo video for their second single, "King Of Kalifornia".

1992. Epic Soundtracks leaves the band after recording the "I'm Never Gonna Die Again" album. In April 1992 he records his first solo album ("Rise Above") @ Wake The Dead studios, London with Rowland S.Howard joining on 3 tracks. In January 1994 he records his second solo album ("Sleeping Star") @ Chiswick Reach, London. He tours Europe and the US several times between 1992 and 1997. He died in his London apartment on November 5, 1997, at the age of 38.

10-Oct-92
UK Release of the "King Of Kalifornia" single (Mute records).

31-Oct-92
UK Release of the "I'm Never Gonna Die Again" album (Mute records).

23-Nov-92
DE Berlin-Schöneberg,The Loft (im Metropol)

Setlist: King Of Kalifornia/ "Blood And Sand" She Said/ So The Story Goes/ One In Shadow, One In Sun/ Insomnicide/ I Ate The Knife/ Hyperspace/ Black Milk/ Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)/ Crowned/ Shamed/ Insomnicide.

Note: Start of European tour, their first in 4 years.

25-Nov-92
DE Braunschweig,Freizeit- und Bildungszentrum Bürgerpark/FBZ

Photo: Backstage @ the FBZ. Photo credit Janet K.

26-Nov-92
DE Potsdam,Fabrik

Setlist: Hyperspace/ "Blood And Sand" She Said/ So The Story Goes/ Shamed/ One In Shadow, One In Sun/ I Ate The Knife/ King Of Kalifornia/ Black Milk/ Crowned/ Marry Me (Lie! Lie!).

Poster: Photo of poster.

27-Nov-92
DE Köln,Underground

Setlist: Hyperspace/ So The Story Goes/ "Blood And Sand" She Said/ Shamed/ One In Shadow, One In Sun/ Insomnicide/ I Ate The Knife/ King Of Kalifornia/ Black Milk/ Crowned/ Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)/ Lonesome Town [Ricky Nelson]/ Insomnicide.

Photo: At soundcheck (doing a version of The Stooges' "I'm Sick Of You"). Credit Cliff McLenehan. Used with kind permission.

Handbill: Original handbill .

28-Nov-92
DE Düsseldorf,Hitsville recordshop

Setlist: Black Milk/ Oh Jim [Lou Reed]/ So The Story Goes/ Wedding Hotel.

Note: Afternoon. Rowland and Chris acoustic set.

28-Nov-92
DE Düsseldorf,Haus der Jugend

Setlist: Hyperspace/ "Blood And Sand" She Said/ So The Story Goes/ Shamed/ One In Shadow, One In Sun/ Insomnicide/ I Ate The Knife/ King Of Kalifornia/ Black Milk/ Crowned/ Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)/ These Immortal Souls.

Photo: Credit Anja Scherf. Used with kind permission (by way of Cliff McLenehan).

Ticket: Photo of ticket, courtesy of Wolfgang Kunst.

Note: Evening show.

29-Nov-92
DE Münster,Tryptichan

30-Nov-92
DE Frankfurt,Cooky's

Setlist: Hyperspace/ "Blood And Sand" She Said/ So The Story Goes/ Shamed/ These Immortal Souls/ Insomnicide/ I Ate The Knife/ King Of Kalifornia/ Black Milk/ Crowned/ Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)- Je t'aime [Serge Gainsbourg].

01-Dec-92
DE Stuttgart,Longhorn

02-Dec-92
DE Heidelberg,Schwimmbad Musik-Club

03-Dec-92
AT Salzburg,Arge Nonntal

04-Dec-92
AT Wien,Szene

05-Dec-92
AT Ebensee,Kino

Setlist: Hyperspace/ "Blood And Sand" She Said/ So The Story Goes/ King Of Kalifornia/ Shamed/ Insomnicide/ These Immortal Souls/ I Ate The Knife/ Black Milk/ Crowned/ Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)/ Hey! Little Child [Alex Chilton]/ One In Shadow, One In Sun.

06-Dec-92
SK Bratislava,Rock Fabrik

08-Dec-92
BE Gent,Democrazy

Setlist: Hyperspace/ "Blood And Sand" She Said/ So The Story Goes/ King Of Kalifornia/ Shamed/ Insomnicide/ These Immortal Souls/ I Ate The Knife/ Black Milk/ Crowned/ Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)/ Hey! Little Child [Alex Chilton]/ Insomnicide.

Photo: Photo credit Janet K.

22-Apr-93
UK London-Camden,Underworld
[support by Nikki Sudden & The Jacobites]

Ad: Scan of ad from UK press.

Note: Nick Cave attends the gig, but did not stay until the end.

23-Apr-93
UK Liverpool,Planet X
[support by Nikki Sudden & The Jacobites]

24-Apr-93
UK Edinburgh,Subway Cowgate
[support by Nikki Sudden & The Jacobites]

25-Apr-93
UK Dundee,Bar Chevrolet
[support by Nikki Sudden & The Jacobites]

26-Apr-93
UK Glasgow,Cathouse
[support by Nikki Sudden & The Jacobites]

Listing: Scan of (Nikki Sudden's) Cheapside newsletter #1.

07-Aug-93
UK London-Camden,Underworld
[with Phil Shoenfelt's Southern Cross?]

Listing: Scan of listing from Daily Mirror 05-Aug-93.

Note: Nick Cave attends the gig. In the spring of 1993, Rowland S.Howard and James Johnston [Gallon Drunk] had been helping out Nick recording demos (among others "Thirsty Dog") for the Bad Seeds' "Let Love In" album @ the Garden of Eden studio, London. From 31-Aug-93/12-Sep-93 the actual sessions started @ Townhouse III Studio, London-Battersea. Rowland S.Howard and Tex Perkins [Beasts Of Bourbon] contribute backing vocals to the "Do You Love Me?" track.

17-Nov-93
UK London-Camden,Underworld
[with Here]

Note: Chris Hughes [True Spirit] is flown in from Berlin (on Mute's expenses) and borrows Here's drum kit. Likely to be the band's last gig before returning permanently to Melbourne, except for Chris who returned to Berlin.

21-Jan-94
AU Melbourne-St.Kilda,Esplanade Hotel-Gerschwin Room
[with Flicker]

Ad: Scan of ad from The Age 21-Jan-94.

Note: Free admittance show. Rowland is joined by Spencer P.Jones [The Johnnys 1983-90, The Beasts of Bourbon], Chris Walsh [The Reals/The Negatives 1975-77, The Moodists 1981-85] and Peter Robert Jones [Harem Scarem 1985-89, Crowded House 1994-1996]. Peter Jones (no relation to Spencer) died, at the age of 49, on 18-May-12. Labeled by Rowland as "the unofficial tour" of These Immortal Souls.

23-Jan-94
AU Melbourne,Showgrounds
Big Day Out festival

Setlist: So The Story Goes/ King Of Kalifornia/ Shamed/ Insomnicide/ I Ate The Knife/ Black Milk/ and more...

Photo: Screen capture from private video. Photo credit unknown.

02-Feb-94
AU Melbourne-Fitzroy,Punters Club

Listing: Scan of listing from The Age 28-Jan-94.

04-Feb-94
AU Brisbane-The Valley,The Subway

Setlist: All My Trials/ Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)/ King Of Kalifornia/ So The Story Goes/ One In Shadow, One In Sun/ Insomnicide/ I Ate The Knife/ Shamed/ Black Milk/ Crowned.

09-Feb-94
AU Melbourne-St.Kilda,Prince Of Wales Hotel

Listing: Scan of listing from The Age 04-Feb-94.

Note: On the same night Dirty Three started their Wednesday residency at the Public bar.

11-Feb-94
AU Sydney,Lansdowne Hotel

Poster: Photo of poster.

18-Feb-94
AU Melbourne-St.Kilda,Esplanade Hotel
[with Charlie Owen and Joel Silbersher]

19-Feb-94
AU Melbourne-St.Kilda,Esplanade Hotel
[with Charlie Owen and Joel Silbersher]

Photo: Screen captures from private video.

Ad: Scan of advert and article from The Age 18-Feb-94.

18-Aug-94
AU Melbourne-Fitzroy,Punters Club
[with Slub]

Poster: Photo of poster.

23-Sep-94
AU Melbourne-St.Kilda,Esplanade Hotel
[with Hard Candy]

24-Sep-94
AU Melbourne-St.Kilda,Prince Of Wales Hotel
[with Ed Kuepper]

Setlist: A.o. One In Shadow, One In Sun/ and more...

14-Oct-94
AU Melbourne-St.Kilda,Prince Of Wales Hotel

17-Oct-94
AU Melbourne,Metropolis studio, recording "You Can't Unring A Bell" [Tom Waits]. Engineered by Tony Cohen.

28-Apr-95
AU Melbourne-St.Kilda,Prince Of Wales Hotel

Setlist: (A.o.) Panic Moon/ Shamed/ Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)/ Can't Unring A Bell [Tom Waits]/ Black Milk/ Crowned/...

07-Nov-95
US Release of V/A "Step Right Up Tom Waits tribute" album (Manifesto/Caroline records).

25-Jan-96
AU Melbourne-Richmond,Corner Hotel

Setlist: (A.o.) Panic Moon/ Shut Me Down/ Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)/ I Ate The Knife/ Hyperspace/...

29-Mar-96
AU Melbourne-St.Kilda,The Esplanade Hotel,Gerschwin room
[with The Working Class Ringos]

Ad: Scan of ad taken from The Age 29-Mar-96.

31-May-96
AU Melbourne-Richmond,Corner Hotel
[support for Died Pretty]

Ad: Scan of ad from The Age 31-May-96.

08-Jun-96
AU Melbourne-Prahran,Joey's Ministry of Sound

09-Jun-96
AU Melbourne-Fitzroy,Punters Club

Setlist: (A.o.) Panic Moon/ All My Trials/ Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)/ I Ate The Knife/ One In Sun, One In Shadow/ Black Milk/...

13-Sep-96
AU Melbourne-Prahran,Joey's Ministry of Sound Niteclub

Setlist: Panic Moon/ All My Trials/ King Of Kalifornia/ So The Story Goes/ Hyperspace/ Insomnicide/ Big Sleep/ I Ate The Knife/ Black Milk/ Crowned.

17-Jan-97
AU Sydney,The Metro Theatre
[with Atlas Strings, The Good Fight]

Setlist: Panic Moon/ All My Trials/ Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)/ King Of Kalifornia/ So The Story Goes/ Hyperspace/ Silver Chain/ Insomnicide/ Big Sleep/ Black Milk/ Crowned/ One In Shadow, One In Sun.

Ad: Scan of ad.

31-Jan-97
AU Melbourne-St.Kilda,The Esplanade Hotel,Gerschwin room
[with Wendy Rule and Eden]

Ad: Scan of ad from The Age, 31-Jan-97.

05-Apr-97
AU Melbourne-Prahran,Joey's Ministry of Sound Niteclub

Setlist: (A.o.) Panic Moon/ Marry Me (Lie! Lie!)/ Hyperspace/ Silver Chain/ Black Milk/...

11-Apr-97
AU Melbourne-St.Kilda,The Esplanade Hotel,Gerschwin room
[support for Magic Dirt, with Dumb Earth]

Ad: Scan of ad from The Age, 31-Jan-97.

09-Aug-97
AU Melbourne-Prahran,Joey's Ministry of Sound
[with Hood]

Photo: Credit David Gerard.

Note: Gig started at 2AM.

16-Oct-97
AU Melbourne-St.Kilda,Prince Of Wales
[support for Magic Dirt]

Ad: Scan of ad from The Age, 10-Oct-97.

17-Oct-97
AU Melbourne-St.Kilda,Greyhound Hotel
[with Shiver]

20-Dec-97
AU Melbourne-St.Kilda,The Esplanade Hotel,The Lounge

Ad: Scan of ad from The Age, 19-Dec-97.

Note: Next to last These Immortal Souls concert.

23-Jul-98
AU Melbourne-St.Kilda,Greyhound Hotel
[with The Hungry Ghosts and Shotgun Wedding]

Ad: Scan of ad from Streetpress (Melbourne mag).

Photo: Photo credit Darren McDonald (@cockknee).

Note: First live gig since December 1997. Last ever These Immortal Souls concert. Last ever Shotgun Wedding concert. Shotgun Wedding special line-up: Lydia Lunch (vocals)/ Rowland S.Howard (guitar)/ Harry Howard (bass) and Craig Williamson (drums). Rowland S. Howard produced The Hungry Ghosts self titled album in 1997.

1998.After years of doing solo acoustic shows at a rate of 1-2 a month, Rowland starts a new band with Brian Hooper [Beasts Of Bourbon] and Mick Harvey, recording his "Teenage Snuff Film" album. In 2000 Harry Howard founds Thee Pink Stainless Tail with Simon Strong. The band will last until 2009, when Harry founds his own band, Near Death Experience with Edwina Preston, Dave Graney and Clare Moore. NDE was active until 2019. In 2022 Harry starts his solo career, recording and releasing 2 albums so far "Slight Pavilions" (2022) and "Under the World" with David McClymont (2025).

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